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Hi, I'm Emily ..23 weeks pregnant with my first child ( a little boy),
I was wondering if other mamas could share what worked for them to prepare and get through labour as I'm willing to try lots of different ideas to try a natural birth. Having said that I'll be the first one to have any pain killers going my way if I can't cope!!
I've been reading about natal hypnotherapy, homeopathic kits, herbalism, water births to name a few. I try and do a bit of yoga every week and do ATS belly dance. I just wondered if some of you belly dance mamas had any experiences to share of what helped them through labour. I'd be particularly interested to hear if any particular movements helped with labour!
I've just found out that my lift is due to be replaced in January which is when my baby is due. It means I have to walk up twelve flights of stairs every day when I'm quite big. My midwife said that would be great prep for labour though?? The lift won't be working for 4 months, so I guess it'll keep me fit. I just hope I don't end up with too many stitches or a caesarian!!
I'm new to this tribe and I've really enjoyed some of the discussions here.
All the best to you all
Emily
I was wondering if other mamas could share what worked for them to prepare and get through labour as I'm willing to try lots of different ideas to try a natural birth. Having said that I'll be the first one to have any pain killers going my way if I can't cope!!
I've been reading about natal hypnotherapy, homeopathic kits, herbalism, water births to name a few. I try and do a bit of yoga every week and do ATS belly dance. I just wondered if some of you belly dance mamas had any experiences to share of what helped them through labour. I'd be particularly interested to hear if any particular movements helped with labour!
I've just found out that my lift is due to be replaced in January which is when my baby is due. It means I have to walk up twelve flights of stairs every day when I'm quite big. My midwife said that would be great prep for labour though?? The lift won't be working for 4 months, so I guess it'll keep me fit. I just hope I don't end up with too many stitches or a caesarian!!
I'm new to this tribe and I've really enjoyed some of the discussions here.
All the best to you all
Emily
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Re: what worked for you?
Wed, September 19, 2007 - 11:12 AMI definitely think the stairs will help you with your delivery. Just take them really slow and steady as you get bigger. I lived on the 25th floor when I was pregnant with my first child and took the stairs just for fun sometimes. : ) If you do have stitches you will want to take it easy afterwards for a couple of weeks.
As for what helped me in labour; assuming an animal-like pose on all fours. It opened up my pelvis naturally, made it easy for the midwife to push down on my back (where I was feeling most of the pain) and made the delivery very quick and stitch-free! (The second time anyways.) I pushed my baby out in three minutes and had no swelling. Between the position I assumed and the midwife asking me to give quick little pulses instead of gigantic pushes, I really believed this made a difference.
If you can cope with the pain, do it without meds. That's easier said than done, I know, but if you can your birth will be quicker and so will your recovery.
Best of luck to you!
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Wed, September 19, 2007 - 12:50 PMI REALLY liked climbing stairs while I was in labour... it felt good and kept my mind off the pain. Unfortuantely once I got to the hospital they didn't want me to leave the delivery ward, which was all on one floor... so no stairs :(.
A big part of how you cope with pain has to do with the people around you. If you can find a good doula or labour coach (friends are great but someone who really knows about birth and distracting/coping with pain is a big asset) that will help. Also pushing a little slower when the head is being born can help prevent tearing... some doctors know this but others just want you to push as hard as you can, another reason why it can be good to have a doula/midwife around even if you don't go for a home birth. Also it's good to have someone to advocate for you in the hospital, because when you're in labour, your mental state is pretty altered and you may not be able to ask for the things you wanted... certainly I wasn't.
My midwife friend's biggest piece of advice to me: when you first go into labour, REST... because later on, when things get intense, you won't be able to. Did I take her advice? of course not. But it would definitely have been a good idea. It's much harder to cope with intense labour pains when you've been up all night with them.
Make a birth-plan, consult your doctor, have them sign it too... include the things you'd like to try in labour (balls, jacuzzi, walking, squatting... whatever) that you don't want drugs (if you don't), that you'd really like to avoid a caesarian unless conditions become life-threatening (ask your doctor what their definition of "life-threatening" is). (Assuming you're having a hospital birth... if you're hoping for minimal intervention you may want to look into a home-birth with a midwife).
For me... I didn't want drugs, but when the time came I was screaming for them (I let them break my water for the first baby, which moved things from intense to excruciating VERY quickly... in hindsight probably not a good idea, but I was bored and tired and just wanted the baby to ARRIVE. Second baby was just a very fast, intense delivery in general). Anyway, both times they weren't available, and it's amazing what you can get through when you don't have the option. Looking back from the other side, I'm glad I had no drugs, if only for the "macho" factor (Yay me, I'm so tough). At the time I didn't think I could cope with it, but because I had to, I did.
Anyway, that's my two cents. I didn't really incorporate bellydance into my labour or labour prep; lots of walking, pressure on the hips, climbing stairs, but not dancing. Maybe dancing would've been good, but it doesn't really fit with my husband, so I didn't. This was mostly for the first labour... the second one was too quick to do much but try and not fall over screaming (and yes, I did my share of screaming both times).
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Wed, September 19, 2007 - 2:30 PMthanks Zelia and Taran, I'm starting to really see my 12 flights of stairs as a positive asset and am thinking of inviting over some pregnant friends and charging them to use them!! Maybe I could offer it as an alternative pre-natal class!! Its great actually as a couple of relatives are really starting to worry about it and I can tell them of the benefits!!
My boyfriend is going to be at the birth ( not sure how much help he would be with pain management techniques). I'd like to have a home birth if I could..but failing that it'll be the "home from home" midwife led unit at my hospital. I'm definitely going to write a birth plan once I know what I want in it. I was thinking of putting in that I may need to get up and start shimmying just in case they need a bit of explaining tee hee.
Really enjoying these posts...thank you
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Wed, September 19, 2007 - 11:02 PMsquats! lots of squating, i thought i did lots, but i wish i had done more. I thought I had strong thighs, but in labor I used all my strength and my legs were trembling.... and it took a long time to get my strength back. -
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Thu, September 20, 2007 - 8:53 AMwell I dislike doing squats at the best of times...but I should start doing them again hmmm...thanks for that!
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Thu, September 20, 2007 - 10:26 PMI second the doula, birth plan, and rest advice. Squats probably would be great, but I avoided them, so I couldn't tell you! Also, having some of your favorite music with you at the hospital can help you relax and focus a lot too. Some women also have found birth balls and laboring in water really helpful as well. Really, just having a lot of options available for support in getting you through the long haul I guess is what you're going for!
Good luck, and happy birthing!
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Fri, September 21, 2007 - 5:46 AMthanks Elizabeth, I love the top you have on in your photo...the lacey one. That would be perfect for a performance I'm doing in a few weeks time. Do you know where I could buy one similar? Going back to the music, I'm doing a natal hypnotherapy cd and you're supposed to play the music on its own during the birth to make you remember all the suggestions in the hypnotherapy...its terrible new age music though so I may just do a compilation of old faves.
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Fri, September 21, 2007 - 8:05 AMi did a natal hypnotherapy class, and LOVED IT! unfortunately, my boy has a big noggin (at birth, his head was average for a 12 month old), so i did have a c-section, which was not at all a bad experience. we wanted to go natural, but hey, sometimes things don't work out, and we still had a fantastic birth. That said, and the point i'm getting to, is that the hypnotherapy was a big help even with the caesarean. i stayed calm and relaxed, and my son was calm and relaxed, really quite a zen kid. still a pretty zen kid, and they tell me that prenatal hynotherapy does impact your kid's attitude for life, since you get them on such an early start in relaxing. at any rate, i believe that the class enabled us to deal with the change of plans easily, and enabled us to still have a really positive experience with the whole thing.
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Sat, September 22, 2007 - 5:21 AMGlad you liked the top! I found it at Target (in the regular women's clothes' section) for $11! However, that was over three years ago now, so I couldn't say whether Target still carries anything similar. Enjoy your performance! The performances I did while pregnant will always be my favorites, I suspect.
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Mon, September 24, 2007 - 7:23 AMWe don't have target in the uk..I keep hearing it mentioned on tribe and it sounds great!
I'm gona look out for a similar top on ebay or else I'll be brave and have a henna belly!
Emily
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Re: what worked for you?
Sun, September 23, 2007 - 7:07 AMEmily,
I had my first baby in the UK too so I'm familiar with the NHS and their angle on child birth. I've known a lot of women, myelf included, who were pressured into having as little pain control as possible in lieu of natural births and methods. I planned to have a natural birth as well but no battle plan survives contact with the enemy. Every woman is different and if you feel like you can do it then go for it girl! But be prepared to tell your midwives what you want when you want it. I was in so much pain that I couldn't voice my opinion to anyone, they didn't give me anything until my third day of labour. What happened to me was criminal and I never want to see anything like that happen to anyone ever again. I learned a couple hard lessons about childbirth in the UK. 1) The NHS doesn't want to pay for your comfort, they want you to tough it out as much as possible. 2) You're in a Christian nation that in many places still has the stigma that women were mean't to suffer during labour.
Sorry about the bad stuff but I had to get through it before I got to the good stuff. When I was laboring (2nd time around) I found it really beneficial to use a CD of drum rhythms to focus me. As dancers we're hypnotically predisposed towards those rhythms anyway so it worked out great! I used Solace's "Rhythm of the Dance" and Gypsy Caravan's "Caravan Rhythms." The beat really helps you form a rhythm to breath and focus through contractions. It also guides you during pushing. As for pushing itself... I had the best luck in a semi seated position (with lots of pillows!) with my arms under my knees and my knees pulled towards my chest. I just rolled my belly when I pushed and that baby popped out in 30 minutes! The second time around was a dream for me because I stayed more active, I ordered an epidural as soon as I got there and was prepared to relax and wait for the pushing to start. There's no reason to stress about labour unecessarily in my opinion and staying active and healthy is just awesome. ;-)
I once asked myself how the hell did our ancestors go through childbirth? Well the mortality rates were higher in the past aaaaaaand before Christian views on labor dominated medicine... they used drugs! I really hope that wasn't offensive, I'm still pretty bitter about my first experience so please forgive me.
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Mon, September 24, 2007 - 7:36 AMHi Gen, thanks for your post. Its so interesting to hear other womens exepreinces as it makes me feel I can try to be prepared for all sorts of possibilities, good and bad!
I've already been to see an anaesthetist to prepare for an epidural. I've got a slipped disc, so they wanted to make sure it would be administered correctly. I'll take your advice and talk to my midwife about how I would go about getting an epidural if I wanted one quickly...I have no idea how I'll cope with natural childbirth. I seem bizarrely to know a quite few women that have had wonderful experiences with it and coped really, really well, but I'm aware that if this isn't me, then I shouldn't feel bad about myself and avoid getting more tense and in agony than I need to coz that can't be good for the baby either! I have no idea what the circumstances will be with my baby, my body and my birth and what my pain threshold will be like so I have to keep open minded. I haven't found so far that my midwife has had an opinion either way on drugs or natural childbirth, but its great that at my local hospital St Thomases in London they have this unit called home from home. It has a roof top garden and lovely rooms your partner can stay in overnight and also birthing pools and balls etc. Apparently most people don't use this unit though as they seem to want to intervene with the tiniest complication. If anything I have the impression over here that they prefer a certain amount of intervention as it can speed everything up for the overworked staff. It seems to be that every woman has a different experience with her hospital though!!
I like the idea of drum rhythms..I think I have both those cd's so shall listen to them with a differnt perspective now!
I'm going to do NCT classes soon...did you ever do those over here and did you find them useful?
Anyway, good luck with your tummy . You look incredibly trim and fit in your photos Gen.
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Mon, September 24, 2007 - 7:39 AMoh...and I meant to say..how interesting that you say our anscestors used to take pain killlers. Do you know what they are? I've been looking into various herbs you can take for labour like rasberry leaf, black and blue cohosh, squaw vine etc...I'd love to know more about this.
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Tue, September 25, 2007 - 6:11 PMI've had two children, both natural. I found I was most comfortable standing, and did alot of undulating movements as well as fish (upward figure 8) because it helped release my back. I love the idea of listening to drums...wish I'd known that...
whether you choose pain relief or not, remember that our bodies are designed to give birth, and be open to the experience, you'll remember it for the rest of your life!
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Sat, October 13, 2007 - 1:57 PMGreat replies in here - I am due to have my little Anson any day now - and I am freaking out!! lol. -
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Sat, October 13, 2007 - 2:44 PMYou are a dancing mama, so consider dancing out your baby. I danced in labor when I was feeling a little stuck, and the movement sent me straight into transition. Also, don't be afraid to make noise, and try if you can to keep the noise deep and vibrant instead of high pitched. Have someone there to remind you to bring your voice down, moan, growl, but open your throat and mouth. And, of course, gravity gravity gravity. Stand and walk as much as possible. I found that my labor was intensely painful when I was lying down, but there was so much relief just in standing, or sitting upright and kinda scooting my bum around during contractions. I am a true believer that movement is vital in childbirth. Good luck mama! -
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Mon, October 15, 2007 - 2:57 PMI just posted on the Bradly Method vs. Hypnobirthing thread, and it was a long post because I went into more detail about labor and such. thought it would be good for this thread.
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Tue, October 16, 2007 - 4:42 AMIt realy sounds like you're on the ball, and are taking good care of yourself and keeping active in all the good ways. Keep moving and your body will do better & recover better because you did.
My husband and I did the Bradley Method. we had two lovely & natural homebirths that way (one in 2005, and one just last week). It was great labor prep, but it also gave us a lot of confidence and knowledge about pregnancy and hoe the birtth process (and after) works.
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Wed, October 17, 2007 - 8:26 PMI posted some stuff on the bradley vs hypnobirthing tread too but wanted to add-
Get a friend to have a food tree started for you. A food tree is when friends sign up to bring by a full meal for you and your partner each day for the first 7. It is amazing, you will have lots of left overs that you can just heat and eat when ever you need. This is a must, otherwise you really do neglect your nutrition while you learn how to take care of that person. You really need to build your reserves back up after labor, that's why animals eat placentas... ready, nutritious food that you don't have to even move to get....eh...I'll pick a food tree over that!
Also a breastfeeding doula/coach for the third day and third week....someone that will come over and calm you down and help you with the latch to avoid pain. Labor pain is NOTHING compared to the third day of breastfeeding. I never cried during my 41 hour labor, I was incoherently bawling my third day of breastfeeding.